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Re: The status of desktop-base in wheezy

Hiya !

I updated the sources of Joy theme. As usual, you can find them on the wiki 
page [1].

As usual, the svg files contain inkscape meta-data and have to be open with 

The archive holds :
- All Installer banners that have been made. some with free font, and other 
with the non-free Debian font.
- Syslinux and Isolinux background
- Grub background
- Backgrounds at resolutions 1024x768, 1280x800, 1280x1024, 1366x768, 
1600x1200, 1920x1080x 1920x1200. The original backgrounds with only the Debian 
logo on it.
- kdm/gdm/plymouth backgrounds at resolutions 1024x768, 1280x800, 1280x1024, 
1366x768, 1600x1200, 1920x1080x 1920x1200. These backgrounds are made from the 
inksplat proposal.

So when the user logins, the ink splats will disappear leading to the usual 

Plymouth theme needs to be remade. I wanted something simple to code and to 
display. But I want a aesthetic link between plymouth and gdm/kdm, so the 
inksplat background will be used for plymouth. What I have in mind is to start 
with an empty blue background, then display with fade in the inksplats one by 
one, and the logo at last. This fades in should last, let's say, 6 seconds. If 
loading time is more than that, the logo should remains on top while the 
inksplats fade in and out.

In addition, I saw that some inksplats background I've made for the KDE team 
had some splats-centering problems. This has been corrected.



[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Joy

Le vendredi 29 juin 2012 10:28:06 Adrien Aubourg a écrit :
> Le vendredi 29 juin 2012 10:10:03 Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:37:17AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > > > Please reconsider the "ink splats". I think this is one of those ideas
> > > > that look good for five minutes, but not for two years, just like the
> > > > rocket last time.
> > > 
> > > I've talked with the author just before this email, and I have him
> > > control. He noted that it was not as well recieved as some of the other
> > > themes, so the ink-splat in unlikely to be default.
> > 
> > I wonder if this is true for all the uses of the ink splats decoration.
> > Even though I like it as a desktop background, I can see how it could
> > get annoying in the long run for that specific use. OTOH, the boot
> > splash is something someone will potentially see for two years, but only
> > during startup/shutdown. I'm less convinced that for *that* specific use
> > the argument "it will get annoying in the long run" really holds. So, as
> > a mere user, I wonder if you, the author, and the other participants to
> > this list might consider using the fancier ink splats decoration for the
> > boot parts (splashes, grub, etc.) and keep the non ink splats version as
> > the default desktop background (offering the ink splat as an option
> > there, as it is already the case in sid). Thanks for considering.
> > 
> > 
> > Zack, still pending a more general answer in this thread,
> Hi,
> That is a good idea. But as a author, I want to keep the current grub
> background. We may consider the inksplats version for plymouth or/and for
> GDM/KDM so it can indicate the user that Debian just booted.
> If it is used for GDM/KDM, it can be odd to use the "usual" version of the
> background for plymouth, as it will witch from "usual" to "inksplats" to
> "usual" again.
> So I guess the inksplats background can be used for plymouth only, or for
> plymouth+GDM/KDM, but not just GDM/KDM.
> The fading effect from inksplats to usual can be nice.
> To be short, if we decide to use the inksplats background, I will be likely
> for plymouth and GDM/KDM.
> One more thing though, inksplats style is a very common and used over and
> over style. Some of us like it, but we have to keep in mind that it is not
> so very creative and original, where very simple backgrounds as the usual
> one are (oddly) not so seen.
> If the message for Wheezy if "simple, fast and polished", maybe we should
> avoid the inksplat wallpaper.
> Adrien

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