Re: YaST2 for Debian (aka nYaST)
Am Mittwoch, 24. November 2004 09.54 schrieb Rumen Krasstev:
Good morning
> > > Easier no, because it will require touching of many C++ sources, part
> > > of the core, instead of patching only the autoconf/automake stuff, but
> > > better, because some time in the future it will be necessary - we can't
> > > lie the system at all - I don't think we could build the whole system
> > > (with modules) just with recompilation and some hacks. As you said in
> > > long term we should start a *new* project - I mean this will not be
> > > port
> >
> > I'm not happy with this *new* project thing.
>
> Me too, because as I said if we go to this way - the task growing 10
> times and nobody can say when we would finish :-/
Ah, ok. So i missunderstood you probably.
> > But if you say, there's no other
> > way, I believe you because you know a lot more about the code. But I
> > prefer a close relationship with SuSE/Novell/YaST2.
>
> Me too, don't misunderstand me - if SuSe/Novell/YaST guys say yes, lets
> make some work together - I'll be really happy :-)))
Ok, I'll do my best ;-).
> > I'd like to avoid a fork. See my
> > other mail for some reasons.
>
> Of course you are right, I just say, that without strong backup from
> SuSe/Novell we will loose much more time trying to lie the system, that the
> rpm (and other specific SuSe stuff) is ok for Debian.. So, We should think
> twice before start the "road map" of the project. In summarise let me share
Ok, but let's see that our patches can even go back to Novell at a later
state.
> my
> vision:
> 1. We have strong (technical) support from SuSe/Novell about YaST
> 2. We have experienced dpkg internals Debian developer on our side
> If we complete this requirements, I think it wouldn't be necessary to
> fork the YaST..
Yes, I'll do my best in the next days.
> > Think as well about security things where we could profit from the
> > upstream authors if our yast is close to theirs.
>
> At least.. there is so much similar examples.. I agree with you..
>
> > > of YaST for Debian, it will be new system based of YaST... More and
> > > more every day I understand how big is such task.. In this meaning, we
> > > will need somebody really good with dpkg developing.. I would ask in
> > > the devel list if somebody would like to participate.. Otherwise I'll
> > > need
> >
> > Ok, this is something I could do. Do you think of any specific person?
>
> I have an idea about some persons, but it better to ask them all because
> personal messages is not so hmmmm popular, let say, in the mailing list, I
> mean I'm sure that there is enough experienced developers in the devel
> list, so somebody will participate (I hope) :-))))
Ok.
> > > at least 3-4 months to dig into dpkg internals (I'm interested in this
> > > part of this a long time ago, but hadn't enough free time..)
> > >
> > > > Is it worth to spend the time with rpm in your opinion?
> > >
> > > Yes and no.. For testing what will happens after successfully
> > > compilation maybe and patching only the simplest scripts will give us
> > > quick results, but in a long term rpm should be removed (in my
> > > opinion)..
> >
> > Ok, do have a time estimation for the rpm stuff?
>
> Not yet :-/
>
> > > Excellent, I have no experience with configuring GForge (I hear only
> > > rumours how hard is to set such system), but I guess setting just a
> > > project
> >
> > Oh, that sounds great. My skills are so poor and it's so hard. But hey, I
> > try and learn.
>
> good luck :-)
thx
> > > on it, is easier, so go on make a project and I will upload there the
> > > pathces that I made..
> >
> > I asked for an alioth project and I am now waiting for the answer of the
> > alioth people.
>
> Ok..
>
> > > > PS: Did you get in contact with some people of Novell? See my other
> > > > mail.
> > >
> > > Before 4-5 months.. Without result.. :-/
> >
> > Ok, so I try to get in contact with them.
>
> Thanks :-)
>
> Cheers
> Rumen
griits
Mario
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