Em Sáb, 2004-10-30 às 19:22 +0200, website escreveu: > On Saturday 30 October 2004 17:47, Luis M wrote: > > Well, I only care about people who actually have "silent" mode > > working. It seems that the reason some computers jump out of silent > > mode is because some kernel modules flag some alerts/warnings for > > whatever reason (usually not real emergencies; or not something that > > regular, mere mortals should care to read). I know power users could > > care less about silent mode. For the rest of us, there is a bootlogd > > that logs all boot messages to /var/log/boot. In case there are needed > > later. So for mere mortals the ideal Debian Desktop should be able to: > > Yes it's true > > > > > * Go into "super silent" mode where fbsplash/debsplash would NEVER > > show messages no matter what. Well, except perhaps when fsck is > > checking a drive... who knows (for those who don't use XFS, ext3 or > > whatever). In case fsck is going on, then it would be good if we can > > add another progress bar to display this only :-) but hey, this can be > > put in a TODO for later. And of course the F2 key to dump the whole > > thing to verbose should be an option (as sometimes some processes > > would stop the whole boot rc waiting for whatever. This happens to me > > when some USB drivers are being automatically loaded (cpia-usb) with > > the current 2.6.8.1 vanilla kernel and module tools from Sarge). > > > Please contact the developers before send a message like this to the ml. > How you must know, this "super-silent-mode" exists. It is done by a line in > the config file. > > > * Enable bootlogd and make it clear that all messages are being logged > > there (perhaps a message that flashes through the screen during early > > boot in graphical mode). (it would be cooler if this message fades in > > and fades out) > > > > * And of course, the progress bar has to work. or else you get no > > sense of "something" happening. > > > > These are my own personal goals of course. I'm even putting time to do > > my own Debian-based CDs once we have debsplash working (currently in > > progress). I'll call this kiskeyix (and even have the domain for it: > > kiskeyix.org, which needs a website). > > > > In any case, for those willing to help out in this process. Be it > > debugging, coding, documentation or whatever is needed. You are more > > than welcome to jump into #debsplash channel in irc.freenode.net. > > Besides me, there are at least 2 other people there. So, we are small > > for now :-) (and need a ton of help). > > And not, it is fake. we are in 4! > Me, you, Glyn and Mattew Maybe I can help too! > > > > The goal is to get this working with progressbar and all the initrc > > stuff needed. Hopefully we won't need to patch any Debian inirc > > scripts (like it used to be the case with buggy bootsplash). > > > Why do this? > fbsplash is designed to work with the newest initramfs images. > > > Oh, and for those who got bootsplash to work my advise: dump it and > > jump into debsplash. I could never see any other GPL'ed project so > > buggy and so careless as bootsplash is. Perhaps because there are a > > lot of "comercially oriented" people behind it (SuSe et al). So, the > > patches work for their distros but are a pain to get to work for > > vanilla kernels. Remember that gensplash (gentoo) started as a port of > > bootsplash. And we are taking this almost "as-is" and debianizing it; > > It is fake again. To implements it we need to hack the standard init process > > > whatever we do to it will be passed on upstream (they are working > > closely with us). gensplash code and build system is UGLY. > > Yes it should be "ugly" but remember that without gensplash, debsplash is > nothing > > > I'm doing > > my best to use -dev packages from Debian and clean up the code as much > > as possible. > > > > -- > > ----)(----- > > Luis M > > System Administrator > > LatinoMixed.com > > > > "We think basically you watch television to turn your brain off, and > > you work on your computer when you want to turn your brain on" -- > > Steve Jobs in an interview for MacWorld Magazine 2004-Feb > > > > No .doc: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html > -- Andre Filipe de Assuncao e Brito decko em #debian-br @ irc.debian.org ICQ#45427385 / JabberID: decko@jabbet.at Sitio == http://filipebrito.blogspot.com Camarada Socialista Engenheiro de Final de Semana Artista de Rua Tradutor solidario CIPSGA - Software Livre no Brasil -> http://www.cipsga.org.br Projeto Debian-BR -> http://www.debian-br.org Projeto Debian-SP -> http://sp.debian-br.org
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