Em Sáb, 2004-10-30 às 19:22 +0200, website escreveu:
> On Saturday 30 October 2004 17:47, Luis M wrote:
> > Well, I only care about people who actually have "silent" mode
> > working. It seems that the reason some computers jump out of silent
> > mode is because some kernel modules flag some alerts/warnings for
> > whatever reason (usually not real emergencies; or not something that
> > regular, mere mortals should care to read). I know power users could
> > care less about silent mode. For the rest of us, there is a bootlogd
> > that logs all boot messages to /var/log/boot. In case there are needed
> > later. So for mere mortals the ideal Debian Desktop should be able to:
>
> Yes it's true
>
> >
> > * Go into "super silent" mode where fbsplash/debsplash would NEVER
> > show messages no matter what. Well, except perhaps when fsck is
> > checking a drive... who knows (for those who don't use XFS, ext3 or
> > whatever). In case fsck is going on, then it would be good if we can
> > add another progress bar to display this only :-) but hey, this can be
> > put in a TODO for later. And of course the F2 key to dump the whole
> > thing to verbose should be an option (as sometimes some processes
> > would stop the whole boot rc waiting for whatever. This happens to me
> > when some USB drivers are being automatically loaded (cpia-usb) with
> > the current 2.6.8.1 vanilla kernel and module tools from Sarge).
> >
> Please contact the developers before send a message like this to the ml.
> How you must know, this "super-silent-mode" exists. It is done by a line in
> the config file.
>
> > * Enable bootlogd and make it clear that all messages are being logged
> > there (perhaps a message that flashes through the screen during early
> > boot in graphical mode). (it would be cooler if this message fades in
> > and fades out)
> >
> > * And of course, the progress bar has to work. or else you get no
> > sense of "something" happening.
> >
> > These are my own personal goals of course. I'm even putting time to do
> > my own Debian-based CDs once we have debsplash working (currently in
> > progress). I'll call this kiskeyix (and even have the domain for it:
> > kiskeyix.org, which needs a website).
> >
> > In any case, for those willing to help out in this process. Be it
> > debugging, coding, documentation or whatever is needed. You are more
> > than welcome to jump into #debsplash channel in irc.freenode.net.
> > Besides me, there are at least 2 other people there. So, we are small
> > for now :-) (and need a ton of help).
>
> And not, it is fake. we are in 4!
> Me, you, Glyn and Mattew
Maybe I can help too!
> >
> > The goal is to get this working with progressbar and all the initrc
> > stuff needed. Hopefully we won't need to patch any Debian inirc
> > scripts (like it used to be the case with buggy bootsplash).
> >
> Why do this?
> fbsplash is designed to work with the newest initramfs images.
>
> > Oh, and for those who got bootsplash to work my advise: dump it and
> > jump into debsplash. I could never see any other GPL'ed project so
> > buggy and so careless as bootsplash is. Perhaps because there are a
> > lot of "comercially oriented" people behind it (SuSe et al). So, the
> > patches work for their distros but are a pain to get to work for
> > vanilla kernels. Remember that gensplash (gentoo) started as a port of
> > bootsplash. And we are taking this almost "as-is" and debianizing it;
>
> It is fake again. To implements it we need to hack the standard init process
>
> > whatever we do to it will be passed on upstream (they are working
> > closely with us). gensplash code and build system is UGLY.
>
> Yes it should be "ugly" but remember that without gensplash, debsplash is
> nothing
>
> > I'm doing
> > my best to use -dev packages from Debian and clean up the code as much
> > as possible.
> >
> > --
> > ----)(-----
> > Luis M
> > System Administrator
> > LatinoMixed.com
> >
> > "We think basically you watch television to turn your brain off, and
> > you work on your computer when you want to turn your brain on" --
> > Steve Jobs in an interview for MacWorld Magazine 2004-Feb
> >
> > No .doc: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html
>
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