You write at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ that GNOME and KDE are the primary choices for a default environment for the end user. But I think you are missing one that is very important, namely GNUstep. While having tried to use GNOME and KDE myself several times, and also done experiments with users that are novice (mom, brother, aunt, cousin) and expert (at work, it specialists) I found out that they are completely stuck in a Desktop with too much colors and too much buttons. Now if you take a look at what NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP was years ago: elegant, grey, sexy, easy, simple looking and feeling, just beautiful (some might disagree here). GNUstep resembles exactly that and much more. GNUstep has Display PostScript. GNUstep is not X11 dependent. GNUstep has a nice build system. And GNUstep has alot of very powerful software that neither GNOME or KDE have. I am looking forward to hear comments from you if we can have GNUstep at that url above now or not. Of course talk is cheap and i'm not just talking: I have worked packaging a few software packages that I want to get into Debian with my sponsor (Thank you, Otavio). They are here: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/i_debian/ Here you can find screenshots and more software: http://www.gnustep.org/ http://www.gnustep.it/ http://freshmeat.net/browse/806/ Yours Gürkan Sengün -- Person who say it cannot be done should not interrupt person doing it. --Chinese Proverb
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