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Re: SolusOS - Squeeze Derivative



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Ikey Doherty wrote:

> Hello, not quite sure who to present myself to here :)
> I'm Ikey Doherty. You may remember me, original developer of LMDE.

Hello and thanks for the introduction!

You might want to subscribe to the derivatives mailing list and IRC channel:

http://wiki.debian.org/DerivativesFrontDesk
http://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives/
irc://irc.debian.org/debian-derivatives

> I've moved on a little and I'm working on my own project, SolusOS.
> It's a Debian Squeeze(Stable) based distribution. The long term goal
> is to have a stable base with new applications, easy installation,
> usability, painless codec/driver/firmware installation.

New applications sounds like you want to have backports.debian.org
enabled by default? It might be a good idea for the Debian installer
to have an option for that, could you forward your ideas there to the
Debian Installer team (after checking if they are already implemented
for the next version of Debian)?

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Team

Easier installation sounds like something to work on with the Debian
Installer people.

I'm not sure what you are planning in terms of usability, but that
sounds like something to be worked on outside of Debian in the
upstreams who develop the software that is packaged by Debian.

By painless codec/driver/firmware installation, I guess you mean
non-free stuff, since in general the free codecs/drivers/firmware are
automatically installed (please file bugs if you find that is not the
case). Due to our social contract, that isn't something Debian can do
by default, but we do provide unofficial installation media with
firmware added.

http://www.debian.org/social_contract
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

> My project is solely run by myself. I've currently managed to release
> my 29th Alpha ISO. I am not sure whether the Debian project needs my
> skills/resources, however I am quite willing to contribute to the project
> through any discoveries/avenues taken by my own project.

Debian can always use more help, especially in core teams like the
Debian Installer team, the Debian Live team, the Debian CD team.

If you can forward any bugs you find or patches you create to the
Debian bug tracker, that would be a great way to start helping Debian:

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

Please note that in Debian stable, behaviour changes, new releases and
new features are not accepted, only important updates. So for minor
issues, new versions, new features etc your changes would be accepted
into unstable

> I would like to announce my distro/deriv as an official derivative of
> Debian.

Excellent, please add SolusOS to the derivatives census:

http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census

We will then use various scripts to integrate information about
SolusOS into Debian infrastructure:

http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Integration

The results of the scripts will also be used to do some QA on SolusOS:

http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusQA

> My intentions for the future regarding Debian are to make
> it "stand out from the crowd". i.e. extend its usabilty in all walks.
> I can help with anything from installers, to packagekit modules,
> gtk customisation, kernel building, upgrade routes/managers, etc.
> I'm working on a distro-agnostic driver installer (similar to jockey,
> minus the headaches) and a Debian-targeted Software Manager.

I'm sure the installer team would welcome more help, please contact
them for ways to do so:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Team

If you are interested in packagekit, please take a look at the PTS
(Package Tracking System) page for it. You might want to help the
existing maintainers with the remaining issues:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/packagekit.html

You might also be interested in DEP-11 (Debian Enhancement Proposal
11), which aims to improve support for Debian in PackageKit by
extending the Debian infrastructure:

http://wiki.debian.org/AppStreamDebianProposal

For kernel stuff, I'm sure the Debian Linux kernel team could use help
triaging bugs:

http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianKernel
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelReportingBugs

As far as GTK+ customisation goes, that sounds like something that
should be done upstream. In Debian's social contract, we promise to
give back to the free software community and send work upstream.

http://www.debian.org/social_contract

In terms of upgrade stuff, we have an automated system for testing
upgrades between releases.

http://piuparts.debian.org/

The distro-agnostic non-free driver installer sounds like something to
be added to PackageKit upstream as a separate optional module?

There are already several Debian-targeted Software Managers, not sure
if we need more:

http://packages.debian.org/stable/aptitude-gtk
http://packages.debian.org/stable/synaptic
http://packages.debian.org/stable/software-center
http://packages.debian.org/testing/packagekit
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=137507

> Let me know where I can be of help.

Here are some more general introductions to helping Debian:

http://www.debian.org/intro/help
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/
http://raphaelhertzog.com/go/contributing/
http://blog.zobel.ftbfs.de/2011/06/how-you-can-help-debian-1.html

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise


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