On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:49:14 -0400 Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 08:28:02PM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote: > > What we were talking about in the meeting was how many places a > > distribution has to modify branding strings and images for their > > use. It was brought up by pabs' observation that a lot of the > > changes derivatives have are purely cosmetic. > > > > Rather then changing (for example) base-files, base-artwork and > > desktop-artwork-<environment>, you have to modify huge numbers of > > packages to change logos, desktops, and other things that could > > really be consolidated. Example: Why should a derivative need to > > remove a Debian logo from gnome, kde, base-files, synaptic/software > > sources, etc when it could be included once in base-files (or a new > > package base-branding, or whatever) which all other packages then > > use. When looking at the list of packages which also say Debian as > > a string (eg grub, web browsers, ...) the list grows again. > > I see. That's indeed a very nice idea. It'd go in the direction of > spreading best practices to re-brand Debian derivatives, something > which we started documenting in the wiki, but that could clearly be > made easier centralizing the needed changes in as few packages as > possible. If there are any existing references it would be good to collect them together (somewhere). > Related to the above: we have in the past complained with some > upstreams (most notably Canonical) that their software was hard to > de-/re-brand. Taking steps to make it easier to do with our own > distro stuff would be coherent with that old complaint of ours. :) > I guess the first step for this would be contact the relevant > desktop-related teams (e.g. GNOME, KDE, LXDE, etc. + > debian-desktop@lists.d.o). The first active step perhaps. I'm still wondering how it should be organised and tracked. Is there a process in debian we should use? (something like the release goals or deps?). If not, I might create a sub page for [[Derivatives/Projects]] and start collecting ideas there. thanks, kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK7FOSS) http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group
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