On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:05:07 +0200 Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:22:04AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote: > > Hi all. > > Quoth the meeting bot: > > Minutes: > > http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-derivatives/2011/debian-derivatives.2011-10-23-12.00.html New subject, as this email is largely about a specific sub point. > > I've also taken the liberty of updating the meeting page: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Meetings/2011-10-23 > > Thanks a lot for organizing the meeting and for this minutes. (I'm > ashamed of admitting that I've misread the meeting timing; baffled by > the 12 am/pm issue I thought it was 12 hours later... Sorry about > that.) No problem, we were aware in advance the timing wasn't great for you :) > > - try and organise someone to work on redoing debians branding > > infrastructure. This could probably be a good thing to discuss on > > this list on its own. > > Just to be sure we're on the same page, the way I read this is: > standardize a way on which derivatives could advertise the fact they > are based on Debian. That could be beneficial for them, in case their > public is aware of what Debian is and can appreciate that heritage as > a good sign; but it will obviously be beneficial for us as well, as > it'll give more credit to the widespread reach of the work which is > done in Debian in the first place. Is that what you had in mind? That's a good thought but not what we discussed at the time. What we were talking about in the meeting was how many places a distribution has to modify branding strings and images for their use. It was brought up by pabs' observation that a lot of the changes derivatives have are purely cosmetic. Rather then changing (for example) base-files, base-artwork and desktop-artwork-<environment>, you have to modify huge numbers of packages to change logos, desktops, and other things that could really be consolidated. Example: Why should a derivative need to remove a Debian logo from gnome, kde, base-files, synaptic/software sources, etc when it could be included once in base-files (or a new package base-branding, or whatever) which all other packages then use. When looking at the list of packages which also say Debian as a string (eg grub, web browsers, ...) the list grows again. > I'd welcome work in that direction and I'll be happy to help > (although I can't offer to take the lead). > > IIRC something similar has been proposed a long time ago by Anthony > Towns when he was DPL, but never really completed. I'm not aware of > any existing draft work in this direction either. It'd be wonderful to > resurrect that initiative. I just added it to the agenda for the next meeting. I was hoping to be opening up for a new meeting soon, but since i've dropped the ball on follow up messages the meeting might have to wait until early december or january if we miss that. http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Meetings/Next thanks, kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK7FOSS) http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group
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