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Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

How will "the strength of the wording" be measured? I am not a DD, just a debian user, curious about the new process.

Also, doesn't this give more influence to those developers with more time to write more mails, if the number of messages will be taken into account?

(If this message breaks the mailing list protocol in any way, I am deeply sorry, I am new to these debian mailing lists)

Alejandro Nadal

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 19:53 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> wrote:
Hello Debian Members,

For some time, we have been having systemic issues that make GR
discussions painful. GRs themselves shouldn't be painful, and don't need
to be. Having a chilling effect to using GRs hurts Debian, and as a
project we need a way to poll for consensus on project choices and
directions more often than not.

To overcome the current problems with GR discussions, we introduce a
replacement weighted democratic system. The new procedure is this:

 * A developer proposes an issue with a signed message on
   debian-vote@lists.debian.org .

 * Anyone can express their consent or dissent by replying to the

 * When the discussion eventually dies down, the Debian Secretary will
   review all messages and pronounce the winner.

This method makes the fair assumption that the energy spent in writing
messages to the discussion is related to the amount of insight a person
has on an issue, and how much they care about it. In particular:

 * The more messages a person writes, the more the person cares, and the
   more their opinion will be taken into account: people who only write
   every once in a while, clearly don't think the issue is important
   enough to deserve their real effort.

 * The more strongly worded replies are, the more the person cares, and
   the more their opinion will be taken into account: people who waste
   time with long, polite, well reasoned messages, clearly didn't care
   enough to get emotional about an issue.

 * The longer a person keeps writing, the more the person cares, and the
   more their opinion will be taken into account: people who give up,
   clearly didn't care enough to make themselves heard.

To avoid confusion, we'll maintain the same acronym as before. The new
system will be called Debian Grandiose Reflection.

The first GR using this scheme will concern the introduction of this
voting scheme for the future.


GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org>

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