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Re: Easing the load.



On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:50:15PM +0800, David Palmer wrote:
> I have seen what I believe is a need for an additional mailing list, not
> so much for the benefit of the developers' list, but most definitely for
> the sake of sanity on debian-user. I have posted to curiosain
> recognition of their patience with an O.T. situation.
> 
> The following layout is for initial discussion only,pending the full
> application being tendered as a wishlist bug report.
> 
> Thanking you for your attention.

I've been away from home and rather busy recently, so I've only been
answering urgent/personal emails and taking little notice of the lists...
but this caught my attention, and is something I have thought would be a
good idea for some time now.

> 
> 
> Mailing List Request.
> 
> 
> 
> Basic Purpose:-
> 
> 
> For this list, is multi-part.
> 
> A need is seen, within the context of Debian, for a repository for all
> discussions and notifications that are not list specific...
<snip>
> 
> NAME.
> 
> 
> This is open to suggestion at this stage.
> 
> Some possibilities might be:- Debian- wholistic, debian-adjunct, or
> whatever is felt to have application.

hmmm... debian-floodrelief, debian-safetyvalve, debian-social?
debian-gossip? I quite like the idea of 'social' as it fulfils a social
function - allowing Debianites to socialise as opposed to holding purely
Debian-technical discussions - but it might also be misleading.

> RATIONALE.
> 
> All of the above under the heading 'Basic Purpose' and more would be
> applicable here.

Agree.

> 
> SHORT DESCRIPTION.

Would need to be decided on after the name has been settled, I think.

> LONG DESCRIPTION.

Your 'Basic Purpose' section above, perhaps with a little tweaking/shortening?

> CATEGORY.
> 
> 
> I would suggest 'Other' here, but again, open to suggestion.

Agree.

> 
> SUBSCRIPTION POLICY.
> 
> Open.

... with similar anti-spam measures as on the existing lists.
 
> 
> POST POLICY.
> 
> 
> I would suggest moderated here, principally because of potential
> content.
> 
> I would suggest a minimum of three moderators who would have to be
> agreed as regards potential or actual unsubscription.

Inclined to agree; I think people might perhaps be less restrained on a list
created for the purpose than when being knowingly off-topic on d-u.

> Any volunteers for moderators?

I ran a bulletin board for a year or so once. OTOH I am sometimes away for
extended periods with minimal net access (as at present). I have a high
degree of tolerance for most kinds of flameworthy material but very little
for one or two pet hates :-) I would be uncomfortable holding the authority
and don't think I would be likely to instigate action to unsubscribe
someone. If lack of moderators was going to be the sole obstacle to the list
coming into existence I think I would be prepared to step into the breach,
as I do feel that the Debian community would benefit from such a list.

> WEB ARCHIVE.
> 
> 
> I think the answer is no for this one. Not that I don't think that some
> of the threads wouldn't deserve archiving, but I think that server space
> must be given to Debian proper as a priority.
> 
> Those that were interested in a particular thread could save it to a
> mail folder/directory in transit. But again, open to suggestion.

Agree re server space. I've been maintaining a personal archive of d-u for a
year and a bit now, and would do the same for this list. If there was a
desire for it and agreement that it should be done, I might be able to
obtain a few megs of free webspace and keep the most recent few weeks
available there.

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