On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:57:10PM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 19:03, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:40:20PM +0000, John Holroyd wrote: > > > > > > Just tell your parents that you agree with Isaac Asimov: > > > > > > Properly read the bible is the best case for Atheism ever conceived. > > > > > > > Hmm... Nah, not atheism-- I believe there's someone/thing out there, > > just I don't agree with the Catholic Church or any other > > church/religion that I know of. They believe that God/Allah/Whatever > > is illogical and petty, for one thing-- but, looking around at how the > > universe operates, I don't think an illogical, petty, selfish being > > could make up a universe that is almost totally logical, you know? > > Besides, if God sees the 'Big Picture' and mainly cares about that, > > then why would s/he be just as petty and silly as your nosy neighbor > > across the way? Hmm? > > Please have my children. [1] Ok. :) [1] ;) > > > Besides that, I have other reasons why I > > believe in some sort of god; not for superstitious reasons-- quantum > > physics. :) > > What about it? Basically, it boils down to the Uncertainty Principle (and/or Schroedinger's Cat)-- for matter to settle into a specific state, it has to be observed; otherwise, it just sort of sits in a sort of limbo, and it's in 2 states at once (yes, I know that the Uncertainty Principle mostly applies to electron spins, but I was told by people who should know[tm] that it would apply in this case). So someone (God, for lack of a better term) was there to observe it; granted, that doesn't necessarily mean that God created the Universe, but why else would God have been in the area to observe the Primordial Atom if s/he hadn't created it? And, since the Universe is just a vast quantum computer[2], it kinda makes sense that it would be based on similar principles, right? > > > But at this point my main > > gripe against the youth group is just the fact that my parents > > are *forcing* me to socialize (I hate being forced to do anything); > > especially with kids (granted, they're about my age, but that's about > > all we have in common) who have no clue about anything that I find even > > vaguely interesting and who are interested in the most inane > > things. *sigh* > > Agreed. People who post to debian-curiosa should be forced to socialize > with each other, if at all. Huh? I don't want to be forced to do anything. :( [1]I'm kidding. [2]http://focus.aps.org/story/v9/st27 -- Vikki Roemer Homepage: http://www.2khiway.net/users/vroemer Registered Linux user #2880021 http://counter.li.org/ "Just because you're not paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (ripped from someone's slashdot .sig) PGP fingerprint: 0A3E 0AE4 CCD9 FF31 B4BB C859 2DE1 B1D8 5CE0 1578 Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(?) s: a--- C++++(++) UL++++ P+>++++ L+++>++++ E>++ W++ N+ o? K- w--() O? M? V?(-) PS+(+++) PE++(+++) Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5 X-() R*(?) tv-- b+++(++) DI+ D--(?) G e-(*)>+++++ h! r-- x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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