Hello, On Thu 14 Nov 2024 at 08:07am +01, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > That would be an argument to *NOT* have random packages "Recommend: > system-log-daemon" so it is easier to not have it installed at all. > > We spent quite some time to have packages *NOT* "Recommend: mta" so it > doesn't get installed by default. (Though I think there are still left- > overs outside the default install...) > > Having "system facilities" that the admins decide to install or not > install makes keeping optional stuff optional easier than random > "Recommends:" pulling in packages that might or might not be useful for > individual installations. As far as I understand there are often > concerns that "Recommends:" is sometimes far too inclusive in Debian. But for maximum flexibility, we try to express as much as possible in our dependency system. If someone doesn't want a logging facility, they should probably blacklist it for instllation in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d. It's still reasonable for a package maintainer to assert that in all but unusual installations, this particular daemon would want to log. > On the other hand some people argue that a "proper" UNIX-like system > always needs a MTA (and a running syslog and a compiler and so on) > because that is what some systems looked like in the past... I don't believe this is relevant. -- Sean Whitton
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