Bug#1084924: The system-log-daemon virtual package

[Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org>]

>>>>> "Helmut" == Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> writes:

    Helmut> I see how Ian had a bad experience earlier. His refusal to
    Helmut> interact with opponents vaguely makes sense on those ground,
    Helmut> but doesn't help the matter. His refusal to interact with
    Helmut> CTTE members removes our ability to solicit feedback in
    Helmut> order to resolve the matter. Therefore I suggest that we
    Helmut> completely turn down the request on procedural grounds:
    Helmut> Either he is willing to discuss the matter with us (not with
    Helmut> systemd people) or we cannot help resolve it.

I think this sounds like a great general principle.  In order to bring
something to the TC, you need to be willing to work with the TC at least
to work on a solution.  I would encourage the TC in drafting language to
turn down requests under these grounds to point out that if the
proponent of the request is uncomfortable working with the TC, they can
find another proponent.  If they cannot find another proponent, it
strongly suggests that the issue might not have enough support to
justify a TC intervention.