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Re: Bug#1020792: tech-ctte: Halt merged-/usr transition until dpkg filesystem damage bugs are fixed



> This particular issue in dpkg is very much known and nothing new (a
> short recap: dpkg can lose files if files are moved between packages
> *and* symlinked directores, such as / and /usr, at the same time).
> 
> 
> To mitigate it, bluca added a piuparts check which rejects packages
> that move files from / to /usr (for bookworm/sid). This is overly
> conservative as strictly speaking, we'd only have to be careful of
> packages that move files from / to /usr and between packages within
> one release cycle. I.e. it would be perfectly fine to move files for
> / to /usr if during a release cycle those files aren't moved between
> packages. I suspect this will be a rare case, that said definitely
> something to be aware of if we don't get a fixed dpkg.
> 
> Fwiw, once all files are moved to /usr, the dpkg bug is no longer
> really relevant.
> 
> So, I think there isn't any new information here in #1020792 which
> would warrant a halt.

Indeed, there is nothing new reported here, it's a mix of old news -
none of the failure modes mentioned can actually happen given the
piuparts check that has been in place for a few months (and if someone
can prove the opposite please let us know and we'll update it), and
baseless, patently false statements - I frankly find it quite upsetting
to see claimed that "we have refused to fix any bug" as a self-evident
fact, when even a cursory look at the distribution packages/bugs
trackers in the past couple of months tells a very different story.
Also there were several status updates sent over time, with detailed
progress reports, that were linked in the d-d-a mail - pretty hard to
miss. In short tons of work has happened, and continue to happen, and
seeing it casually dismissed with a shrug is honestly quite
disheartening.

Finally, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence: given it
was claimed that "all systems will be rendered unbootable", it should
be trivial to show it. Provide the log of an upgrade bullseye ->
bookworm that fails to boot. Should be easy enough, given it
*allegedly* affects all systems (despite of course nobody ever having
seen anything remotely like it, ever, over the course of several
years), no? We'll be eagerly waiting for a detailed and evidence-based
report.

In the meanwhile, I'd humbly suggest close+wontfix.

-- 
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi

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