Hello all, Dear Release Team members, I am reaching out to see what is your position regarding bug #932795, which in turn references #907829. Thing is, I want to push a bit before we (Tech-Ctte) to have a possible decision for our next meeting (2019.08.21). In short - This bug started off quite aggressively between two developers, and I don't think it's easy to deescalate. But I think that there is a good way to solve the situation - _if_ the Release Team is willing to accept one more power / responsability. I am expressly _not_ including 932795@bugs.debian.org as a recipient to this mail, as I'd like not to resonate too much with the affected people at first. Of course, I am including an open mailing list. /me crosses fingers ;-) If, in a fashion similar to issuing release qualifications for architectures, the Release Team indicates which is the minimum acceptable build environment for a FTBFS to be considered RC. I don't want to repeat all the reasoning that was given on the {bug,list}, so I'll just point at a couple of meaningful messages: - I think Ian Jackson's mail <23862.65026.843324.814828@chiark.greenend.org.uk> is quite sensible and sane. Of course, it would be up to the RT to define the minimum levels considered "reasonable" and "supported" for each release. Of course, this could include RAM, number of cores, free disk space available — And be flexible to add other criteria not yet considered if deemed necessary - We might at some point hit packages that FTBFS with 4GB RAM, which would be tricky -to say the least- to build them in 32-bit systems, as Ansgar mentioned in <87ftmwd1yh.fsf@43-1.org> - In this message, the submitter explains what is requested from the TC. I am, however, reaching out to the RT because I think this is a problem that should be addressed, and not on a case-by-case basis. <20190725112242.og3gey4fmpwnt3od@nucold> - The submitter makes a point on the amount of packages presenting build failure (4%), plus the economic difference it takes for him to hire a better server. https://people.debian.org/~sanvila/single-cpu/ Thank you all for your comments, - Gunnar, wearing his tech-ctte hat
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