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Bug#904302: Whether vendor-specific patch series should be permitted in the archive [and 1 more messages]



>>>>> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> writes:

    Wouter> On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 08:40:03AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
    >> That said, even there there are tradeoffs.  As an example, Ubuntu
    >> tries to use unmodified Debian source packages where possible.
    >> In some cases I think that the maintenance advantages of doing
    >> this and the slight but real political pressure it creates to
    >> push changes upstream to Debian may justify switching on
    >> dpkg-vendor.

    Wouter> I disagree with that, because it forgets why you're pushing
    Wouter> things to Debian.

    Wouter> The point of pushing things upstream is so that you as well
    Wouter> as upstream end up being the same, and the maintenance
    Wouter> difference disappears. By switching on dpkg-vendor, you're
    Wouter> *not* the same; instead, you're hiding your difference. This
    Wouter> is not generally helpful; it simply moves the maintenance
    Wouter> burden from Ubuntu to Debian (where it simply does not
    Wouter> belong).

I think that we're agreed that evaluating the maintenance burden is
exactly the right criteria.


Imagine a case where the same folks are maintaining a package for
multiple distributions and where the difference is small but important.
In such a case I think our users and the free software community might
best be served by a single repository and switching on something a lot
like dpkg-vendor.

Imagine a case where  it's a different set of people doing the work for
Debian than the distribution that wants the change.  The Debian
maintainers are not  in a good position to test the change and have no
desire to do so.  There, switching on vendor seems like the wrong
option.

We're a group of volunteers; we encourage cross-project collaboration
and working together.  I  believe that the primary consideration should
be what reduces the burden on those doing the work.  There are secondary
considerations of course.

--Sam


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