Re: TC nomination procedure v0
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 11:25:01AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le jeudi, 30 novembre 2017, 14.03:15 h CET Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:48:25AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > My rationale is that the private "vote" isn't a vote on the appointment,
> > > it's a vote to figure out whether the future appointment vote will have
> > > consensus or not.
>
> Given large sets of vetted nominees, it's can also be a "sorting" mechanism.
> We could have more consensual candidates than seats to fill at a certain point
> in time, so using a condorcet-based process (yes, that's the Standard
> Resolution Procedure) helps determining who has consensus _and_ is preferred
> at that point in time. We don't want to have to downvote someone in public, so
> we make sure the public ballot has only the preferred candidate and FD.
>
> This implies that: a) yes, the private vote is a preliminary vote on
> appointment; b) the public vote is usually a mere formality.
>
> (The public vote is only a formality given a relatively unanimous TC though;
> and we could have a TC split about whom they'd want to get onboard. The
> current process doesn't really address that hypothetical situation.)
>
> > It's a vote that will have effect on the appointment of a person to the
> > TC. The constitution specifically wants appointment votes to be public.
> > Without wanting to comment on the letter, I think this is contrary to
> > the intent.
> >
> > To be clear, I also think the consitution is wrong to require that such
> > votes are public. I think the TC should not have to make appointments in
> > public, for the very same reason that we also have secret ballots on DPL
> > votes. However, I think the correct course of action here is not to
> > ignore the constitution and explain that by some clever choice of words,
> > but rather to amend the constitution to make it be in line with that
> > rationale.
>
> Would you be interested in drafting a GR for that, or is that too premature?
I think it's a bit premature at this point, yes, but something along the
following lines could work:
Index: constitution.wml
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RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/constitution.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -r1.28 constitution.wml
--- constitution.wml 21 Aug 2016 15:28:11 -0000 1.28
+++ constitution.wml 4 Dec 2017 08:07:16 -0000
@@ -582,8 +582,8 @@
<p>The Technical Committee may hold confidential discussions via
private email or a private mailing list or other means to discuss
- appointments to the Committee. However, votes on appointments must
- be public.</p>
+ appointments to the Committee in ways they see fit (including informal
+ votes). However, final votes on appointments must be public.</p>
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