Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org> writes: > 2017-08-30 11:50 GMT+02:00 Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>: > >> Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org> writes: >> >> > 2017-08-29 21:39 GMT+02:00 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org>: >> > >> >> Le mardi, 29 août 2017, 17.46:22 h CEST Thorsten Glaser a écrit : >> >> > Leave /usr/bin/nodejs there for at least one more release. >> >> >> >> I'll just note for the purpose of the TC discussion that as of nodejs >> >> 6.11.2~dfsg-3 (the version currently in unstable) , the /usr/bin/nodejs >> → >> >> node >> >> symlink still exists, so at this point, I don't consider there is >> material >> >> for >> >> a TC decision either way, but it's an important conversation to be had. >> >> >> >> Jérémy: could you maybe clarify your plan and your rationale? This would >> >> help >> >> putting everyone on common grounds. >> >> >> > >> > I replaced /usr/bin/nodejs by /usr/bin/node, and made a symlink from >> > /usr/bin/nodejs to /usr/bin/node. >> > My plan was to simply keep /usr/bin/nodejs around for some time until >> > no debian package rely on it. The JavaScript debian team wiki is updated >> > to reflect that. >> >> I was against the TC instructing you how to behave in detail in our >> resolution, because I couldn't imagine that anyone would think that >> tidiness was more important than not breaking things for our users. >> >> Are you really going to prove me wrong? >> >> How much is it costing you to keep the symlink there? >> >> Do you expect that cost to ever exceed the effort of responding to even >> the first bug reported about this, when you turn out to have broken >> someone's locally-written script? >> >> Actually, do you expect it to ever exceed the effort already wasted in >> responding to this thread by you and us? >> >> It's pretty clear that if you do decide to go ahead and remove >> /usr/bin/nodejs quickly, that someone is likely to kick the matter back >> up to the TC. >> >> I for one will have absolutely no sympathy with your side of the case at >> that point, not only because I think it is senseless, but also because >> you'll have been responsible for wasting the time of all involved. >> >> I will also not be even slightly timid about micro-managing you the >> second time around, since if that comes to pass you'll have demonstrated >> the need. > > > Maybe i didn't express myself properly: the idea is to keep /usr/bin/nodejs > until it's no longer needed - be it other debian packages or other user > scripts. > If it was to be really removed, it shouldn't be done without some > deprecation > warning and time for users to notice and change their code. Ah, well -- that's all fine then. Thanks for clarifying. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/ http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg, GERMANY
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