Bug#841294: Overrule maintainer of "global" to package a new upstream version
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> wrote:
> ]] Wei Liu
>
>> On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:47:27 +1030 Ron <ron@debian.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>> > That's basically why "just nuke htags now" is starting to look like
>> > a viable, and even sensible, option. But it's tricky to know who
>> > might be upset by that - and we don't have a clear idea of exactly
>> > what we'd really gain elsewhere from that tradeoff, since most of
>> > the people saying "I need a new upstream" haven't actually been
>> > telling us what the real problem is which that fixes, even when I
>> > asked.
>>
>> Gtags in Debian doesn't work with modern code base. Last time I tried (several
>> years ago), it segfault'ed while trying to index Linux kernel.
>
> FWIW, it worked fine in a test run I just did (on linux-4.9 rc 1), and
> last time I used it, it also worked fine with the emacs integration, so
> I don't recognise the crying from the rooftops about it being broken in
> Debian.
>
Sure, if it works for you. That's great.
I couldn't go back in time to extract a backtrace or coredump. It
could be that I was so unlucky that at the time my computer was
constantly hit by cosmic rays that it just couldn't cope with that
version of global. I installed a new version of global since then and
never looked back. But at some point I decided I cared enough to check
the situation of global in Debian again. I scraped all information I
could find and that led to #816924 (which is the reason I know about
this CTTE bug, BTW).
It is entirely possible that all reporters who said global didn't work
were all out-liners. It is entirely possible that there are hundreds
(based on popcon data) of satisfying Debian global users in the wild.
They just don't speak up because there is nothing to report.
I can only reason from first principle: there is a reason why a new
release is made. Either there are new shiny features, or there are
bugs to fix, most likely to be both. I don't believe the current
Debian global is free of bugs, and I believe it would serve Debian
best if we move on from this ancient version.
If some sort of objective metric is needed, I suggest we wait until
popcon number drops to zero, however long it takes. I'm absolutely
fine with that. :-)
Wei.
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> Tollef Fog Heen
> UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are
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