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Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)



On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 08:59:53AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote:
> But it also gives a wrong sign: Debian Pure Blends are by definition
> integral part of Debian itself. But even now, this is hard to understand
> for many people -- questions like "what is the difference between Debian
> Astro and Debian" are quite common, even in front of a poster describing
> exactly that. With having separate official images for all blends,
> people would even be more confused. As an example, I would take the
> Ubuntu approach of having "Ubuntu", "Kubuntu", "Xubuntu" etc. instead of
> installation options -- people usually think that they have to
> re-install the system if they want to switch from one flavour to the
> other. Having similar experience with Debian would be bad for the
> reputation of the Blends, and for Debian in general.

I don't agree with this argument.

Yes, indeed, in Ubuntu people often don't know that they don't really
need a reinstall to go from Kubuntu to Xubuntu (or whatever), but is
that really a problem?

It's certainly *easier* for users to understand that if they want X, Y,
or Z, they just need to install from the X, Y, or Z image. We can
present them with a message at the end of the installation, or add some
documentation, or whatever, to the effect that switching from one "type"
of Debian to another doesn't require a reinstall; but even if that's
what people end up doing, so what? I don't see the problem -- and it
*would* make this problem go away, since you lose the need for the
tasksel menu entirely.

After all, Ubuntu isn't the only distribution anymore which ships
several images; these days, if you want to install Fedora, you have to
choose between a "workstation", "server", or "atomic"/"cloud" image. It
seems to work for them.

I don't buy that presenting users with a choice of image to download
"confuses" them, when it in fact *takes away* a very confusing menu from
the installer. I think it's going to be obvious to people that if you
download, say, a Debian Med image, you're going to have a different
experience than if you download a "plain vanilla" Debian image; and
that's *certainly* going to make things easier for Debian Med users,
too.

Just my 2¢.

-- 
< ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen
       people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules,
       and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too.
 -- #debian-devel, OFTC, 2016-02-12


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