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Bug#750135: Status of #750135 (Maintainer of aptitude package)



Hi all,

Tollef, thank you for having pushed this topic, we're heading towards a 
solution it seems.

Sorry to have taken so long to answer…

Le mercredi, 15 avril 2015, 20.13:44 Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> >> Quoting Axel Beckert (abe@debian.org):
> >> > In the long run I'd like to see even more people working on
> >> > Aptitude.
> >> > 
> >> > But for that, a possessive lead developer or power games are
> >> > quite
> >> > hindering. IMHO one of the reasons Aptitude's development stalled
> >> > again are those power games we've seen. So I'd prefer a solution
> >> > where people who want to do stuff are also able to do it --
> >> > without getting harassed by other people involved.
> >> 
> >> So do I. And I still have admin rights on aptitude on Alioth. Even
> >> though I'm not that much active in aptitude's development.
> >> 
> >> Here's my proposal:
> >> 
> >> - restore Manuel's commit rights
> >> - have both me and Axel watch the aptitude-devel mailing list, not
> >> to judge the technical validity of changes, but more following the
> >> social aspects
> >> - and see what happens...
> >> 
> >> It can't indeed be worse than the current situation anyway.
> >
> >I see where the proposal is coming from, but I'd like to ask you to
> >hold off on it a little bit.  I've mailed Daniel and asked him to
> >comment on the bug, so hopefully we can have his input soon and get
> >this resolved.
> >
> >(Of course, if Daniel's happy with that approach, and Manuel is too,
> >then I don't think anybody would have a problem with it.)
> 
> Daniel has not responded to the bug at all within the two weeks (and a
> few days) I asked him to, so I see no point in waiting further with
> moving forward here.
> 
> My suggestion is basically to say yes to Manuel: Make him the
> maintainer of aptitude and ask the Alioth admins to reinstate him as
> an admin, removing Daniel.

Given the situation (an unresponsive Daniel, a proposal from people with 
powers to push the situation forward), I'd be more inclined to say yes 
to Christian, without a formal resolution.

Given that we could not hear from Daniel (as of now), I think we're much 
now more in a typical "MIA" situation rather than in a "conflict 
resolution" situation. In this situation, I'd rather apply normal 
procedures than our "formal resolution" one: people who are admin on 
Alioth take it from there and apply their best judgment for the 
project's success, acknowledging Daniel's MIA status on aptitude's 
front.

> (…) I'm not sure stating that in a formal resolution is going to make
> the world a better place either.

I think the net result would be perceived as a blame of Daniel, judging 
his past actions, while we could not hear his side of the story. I'm not 
overly comfortable with this.

Cheers,
OdyX

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