Hi all, Tollef, thank you for having pushed this topic, we're heading towards a solution it seems. Sorry to have taken so long to answer… Le mercredi, 15 avril 2015, 20.13:44 Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > >> Quoting Axel Beckert (abe@debian.org): > >> > In the long run I'd like to see even more people working on > >> > Aptitude. > >> > > >> > But for that, a possessive lead developer or power games are > >> > quite > >> > hindering. IMHO one of the reasons Aptitude's development stalled > >> > again are those power games we've seen. So I'd prefer a solution > >> > where people who want to do stuff are also able to do it -- > >> > without getting harassed by other people involved. > >> > >> So do I. And I still have admin rights on aptitude on Alioth. Even > >> though I'm not that much active in aptitude's development. > >> > >> Here's my proposal: > >> > >> - restore Manuel's commit rights > >> - have both me and Axel watch the aptitude-devel mailing list, not > >> to judge the technical validity of changes, but more following the > >> social aspects > >> - and see what happens... > >> > >> It can't indeed be worse than the current situation anyway. > > > >I see where the proposal is coming from, but I'd like to ask you to > >hold off on it a little bit. I've mailed Daniel and asked him to > >comment on the bug, so hopefully we can have his input soon and get > >this resolved. > > > >(Of course, if Daniel's happy with that approach, and Manuel is too, > >then I don't think anybody would have a problem with it.) > > Daniel has not responded to the bug at all within the two weeks (and a > few days) I asked him to, so I see no point in waiting further with > moving forward here. > > My suggestion is basically to say yes to Manuel: Make him the > maintainer of aptitude and ask the Alioth admins to reinstate him as > an admin, removing Daniel. Given the situation (an unresponsive Daniel, a proposal from people with powers to push the situation forward), I'd be more inclined to say yes to Christian, without a formal resolution. Given that we could not hear from Daniel (as of now), I think we're much now more in a typical "MIA" situation rather than in a "conflict resolution" situation. In this situation, I'd rather apply normal procedures than our "formal resolution" one: people who are admin on Alioth take it from there and apply their best judgment for the project's success, acknowledging Daniel's MIA status on aptitude's front. > (…) I'm not sure stating that in a formal resolution is going to make > the world a better place either. I think the net result would be perceived as a blame of Daniel, judging his past actions, while we could not hear his side of the story. I'm not overly comfortable with this. Cheers, OdyX
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