Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade for init system switch?
]] Tollef Fog Heen
> ]] Martin Pitt
> > Tollef Fog Heen [2014-10-21 19:19 +0200]:
> > > > I would be particularly interested in your take on the analysis that Steve
> > > > Langasek posted to the debian-devel thread on why listing systemd-shim as
> > > > the first alternative dependency for libpam-systemd makes sense and should
> > > > not cause any negative effects for systemd users.
> > >
> > > In a steady state, this would probably be ok. However, we've so far seen
> > > two instances of -shim breaking for systemd users
> > > (https://bugs.debian.org/746242 and https://bugs.debian.org/765101), by
> > > shipping outdated security policies. We are worried that this will
> > > happen again on future updates of systemd.
> > 8-4 now eliminates the copied d-bus policy entirely. This was by and
> > large a leftover when Ubuntu had the split systemd-services, and other
> > than that there was one remaining delta in the policy which we
> > discussed yesterday and found to be unnecessary (and detrimental).
> That is good to hear. I'm hoping you're right there aren't any other
> ways for it to regress for non-shim users.
I just became aware of
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767468 . Not directly
a shim bug, but cgmanager is pulled in by shim. (I have not done any
analysis on the bug myself apart from reading it, but it looks
Tollef Fog Heen
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