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Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade for init system switch?



On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:31:55PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > I would even go so far as to say that it's good that we're exposing these
> > bugs now, during our release preparation process, so that they can be
> > fixed prior to jessie.  We need systemd-shim to work properly in jessie if
> > we can find the resources to do that work; we know that a lot of users
> > will want to continue using sysvinit for jessie.  systemd is a big change,
> > and, even if one thinks that the same thing that happpened with udev will
> > happen to it in the long run, as with udev we need to support both
> > configurations at least until one of them naturally fades away (if that
> > happens).  And, so far, it looks like the resources to make systemd-shim
> > work will be available.

> I don't think the necessary manpower to fix those bugs is available.  If
> so, why are we now then at ten days before the freeze with bugs that
> were made release critical in -shim more than a month ago with no
> subsequent response from the maintainer?

Is that bug #759745 which was assigned to systemd-shim 8 days ago and
appears to be a duplicate of bug #757348, or bug #756076 which was marked
*resolved* on September 10 and was reopened, with a subsequent history that
in no way explains why it's been marked as "grave"?

Regardless, "I don't think the RC bugs will be fixed" is still not an excuse
for enforcing a different set of bugs via the dependencies of
libpam-systemd.

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