On Friday 11 April 2014 18:25:01 you wrote: > Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer writes ("Bug#741573: Two menu systems"): > > On Friday 11 April 2014 16:10:01 you wrote: > > > Can you come up with any examples where "should" is used in a way that > > > _does not_ permit a maintainer to disregard it if it appears to be a > > > more work than they care to put in ? > > > > Sure: that's seems to be the general understanding of the word: > > someone already gave the debian-mentors example, > > I'm afraid that's not what I meant by an example. I meant a > particular use of the word in the policy document. I got that and I understand that you have a point policy-wide. But (see below)... > > Stuart had the same understanding, I had the same > > understanding. And this seems to be one of the root causes of all > > this mess. Do we have a general misunderstanding of the real meaning > > of the word? Excellent, let's make it clear with this discussion! > >  > > At the very least there is already some confusion here because > different people are saying different things about (for example) > doc-base entries and manpages. That's my point. And if the policy wants to express something that at least some of us (which I thing it's not a small group) understand differently, it's clear we are going to have this kind of discussions. > > Now allow me to use "should" as you understand it, and let me > > express, for the sake of adding another possibility, another > > "solution": maintainers "should" provide either the "trad" or > > "desktop" menu, and once they pick one of them the other becomes a > > "may". > > I don't think this is a sensible thing to say. In my view the two > systems aren't alternatives in that way so an entry in one system > doesn't affect the need (or lack of need) for an entry in the other. Well, at least we know we disagree here :) > If one wanted to unify the two systems idea then what you suggest is > one possible approach to that but for the reasons I have explained I > don't think trying to unify them is a good idea. Agree to the first part, and forcibly agree to the second because, at least in the implementation side, to disagree I should be ready to provide patches, which I'm currently not able to do. Note I'm not considering non-technical issues for the second part (if there is any, I would need to properly re read that part to decide). -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/
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