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Bug#727708: [gmail.com] Re: Bug#727708: call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie

On 02/18/2014 09:34 PM, Jason Frothingham wrote:


Adopting systemd does not, in any way shape, form, idea, concept, conclusion, thought, etc. etc. etc. prevent, pervert, divert, etc. etc. etc. the goal of a computationally stable, bug-free, and flexible operating system.�

First of all, YES it does.. and a lot.. and the majority of competent Debian users know this, and that is why you are catching so much hell over putting it into Debian. And this is why so many people are coming out of the woodwork to express their concerns.. they are concerned about the integrity (stable, bug-free, flexible) of Debian as a viable server and general purpose operating system for critical applications.. and they don't want it screwed with!

So do this, and other mailing lists a favor, knock off the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. �if you have the coding chops to actually comment on systemd's capabilities and features; or lack-thereof; at a code level rather than just at a Moronix Level, you'd probably be better off diving in and fixing bugs yourself.�

I have been "coding" since the early 80's, so please don't go there with me, it doesn't work. I don't care about systemd's capabilities.. that is a mute point. All I need to know is that it is an overly complicated, unnecessary piece of crapware that reduces the integrity of the distribution and that is all that matters.

As to you initial question about what I would have the developers do.. I would say do just that.. develop Debian software that continues to make it a truly universal operating system and follows the original intent of the Debian way. Debian has been around almost as long as the Internet itself.. there are a lot of users out here that don't want to see anyone mess it up! ..Figure out a way around being stuck having to use udev since it has been co-opted by systemd.. that would be my first task for you!

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Tony Thedford <tony@accesslab.com> wrote:
Putting the "systemd" issue on bugs.debian.org is a bit ridiculous I would say! As to why there are developers within Debian who are hellbent on turning Debian into buggy desktop software rather than keeping with the universal operating system directive.. I will never know! Debian is a major force in global server software and therefore must remain extremely stable, bug-free, and flexible.. all of which systemd/gnome crapware nullifies!

Tony Thedford
Access Technologies
850 Belt Line Rd
Garland, TX 75040
Phone: 972.414.8356
Email: tony@accesslab.com

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