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Bug#727708: Both T and L are wrong, plea for something simpler (was: Re: Call for votes on init system resolution)

On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:20:02AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Now, I think there is currently a shared agreement in Debian that
>     "all Debian packages (unless there's a good reason) should run on
>      sysvinit + Linux + amd64 , support outside that is best-effort"

sysvinit support was mandated indirectly due to it being the one and 
only init system used by Debian.

But contrary to what you are saying, there is not one main Debian port 
that matters and all the others are just best effort.

> Now, I think this "default init" decision's purpose is to change the 
> above agreement by replacing the "syslinux" in the above sentence by one 
> of the contenders. Both the T and L riders purposedly don't say anything
> about the default init, and I think that's wrong:

You might think that is wrong, but (like basically all possibilities) 
this has already been discussed here and none of the members of the TC 
seems to favor a "must not require any init other than the default init" 
so it didn't even make it to the TC ballot.

In practice, L means that the old status quo that all packages have to 
work under sysvinit stays.

And that also has benefits, e.g. it reduces the hassle for downstream 
distributions who use an init system other than the one Debian uses as 

There is not any "right" solution everyone could agree on, and after 
months of discussions it is extremely unlikely that someone expressing
his opinion now could change the vote of any member of the TC.

> Thanks for considering, cheers,
> Didier



       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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