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Bug#727708: Vote sysvinit 4 jessie

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On 03/02/2014 14:17, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> Hence those TC members that don't want to see its default should be
>> trying to figure out how to get 1 of the 4 to vote something else
>> above systemd.
> Shouldn't the TC members focus on their own vote and leave the others
> to focus on theirs?

It's a discussion, so its perfectly reasonable to think about the
various alternatives and make arguments that may or may not be

> Likewise, if one finds themselves in the minority,
> should they not accept that gracefully?

Absolutely.  The point is more about considering the long term
effects.  Any init system that is decided now, will be very hard to
unseat in the future thanks to momentum (just like sysvinit is really
hard to unseat right now).  So any solution that loses now, will
effectively never have another chance, so let's take the time to get
it right.  If we can find a way to let users make that direction
clearer, that would be ideal.

That "take the time to get it right" option is sysvinit, and its a
perfectly reasonable solution for another couple years.  It works
pretty well now without any changes or imposition on the project and
has a 30 year history.

Sometimes it makes more sense to maintain the status quo than to rush
into something.  The project is in the process of evolving technical
solutions in the meantime anyway, so a forced decision from the TC
isn't at all necessary, but they seem dead set on it, even in the face
of causing themselves their own loss, which is a rather peculiar bit
of psychology on its own.

Best wishes,

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