Bug#727708: Thoughts on Init System Debate
Andres Freund <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> On 2014-01-19 23:18:26 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> As you say that planned features or development could sway your opinion: are
>> there particular features that you have in mind, here? For instance,
>> correcting upstart's socket-based activation interface is on the upstart
>> roadmap in the jessie timeframe.
> Showing some progress on issues like
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/447654 would excite me far
> much more than promises about future features. Not fixing issues
> described as "a fundamental design flaw" by upstart's original author
> for several years, without an inkling of progress, is what's causing
> doubts about upstarts health, at least for me.
I would add the very presence of the "mountall" tool to this
list. Lennart has described the issues with mountall in
and apparently the upstart developers have been aware them as well since
the very beginning (at least since Ubuntu 8.04), yet the mountall
manpage still says
This is a temporary tool until init(8) itself gains the necessary
flexibility to perform this processing; you should not rely on its
Yet no replacement is in sight even after more than 5 years.
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