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Bug#727708: The tech ctte isn't considering OpenRC at all


On 01/19/2014 01:11 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:19:45 +0100, Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>:
>> Oh, really?
>> Then can you explain why
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391945
>> has not been marked as fixed?
> It is the view of the upstream maintainers that the corner case where
> this happens doesn't happen in real life, so that bug can be ignored.

I want to add, that I've fixed the problem [1] on my local OpenRC copy.
Waiting for answer from Gentoo side about my patch.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391945

I'm only a debian user but let me put two cents in again. Here's a look
from aside:

"systemd" and "upstart" gives _extra_ features, but sacrificing:
 - free community of init-system;
 - UNIX philosophy accordance.

There's a great lot of trash distributions like "ubuntu" or "fedora",
that are pursuing their own goals and forcing variety software. Debian
is the only universal binary distribution with big enough community that
can be used with conservative UNIX users, who believes in free community
and UNIX philosophy. IMO, software bundles (like "systemd") is a
proprietary way.

On the other hand OpenRC is really good solution supported by really
free and professional community. If you don't like something in it,
please, show corresponding bugreports, and OpenRC will likely fix that
all (if that will be reasonable). I personally saw only one minor
bugreport… and a lot of bugreports about "systemd".

OpenRC has extended cgroups support in 0.12 and it has parallel boot
support and all other and other reasonable features. And it's already in
experimental repositories of Debian (but I don't see any problem to test
OpenRC even if it's not in repositories).

The fact that the committee didn't even consider OpenRC despite the
community opinion is sad. I'm talking on forums with Debian users like
me, and a lot of them really want OpenRC. We even cannot understand why
OpenRC was been declined. Where's explanation of it's declination?

Don't you see, that the OpenRC is really the 3rd variant? And the only
one that is community driven. Or this's not an argument for Debian [1,
2] anymore?

[1] http://www.debian.org/intro/about
[2] http://www.debian.org/intro/free

P.S.: Sorry for my English.

Best regards, Dmitry,
head of UNIX-tech department NRNU MEPhI,
tel. 8 (495) 788-56-99, add. 8255

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