Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion
On 01/04/2014 12:07 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Cory <opensourcesoftwaredeveloper@gmail.com> writes:
If Debian go's with systemd they need to use systemd 207 as its
supported in RHEL 7 so we know it's going to be supported for around 10
years also why does Debian have systemd 204 in it's repos?? systemd 207
is way better
Because it's the last version before cgroup handling was changed, which
has implications for supporting logind under different init systems than
systemd. So, in other words, moving systemd forward right now would force
various incompatibilities in an excessively disruptive way before we've
figured out how we want to handle them.
Regardless of how we decide this, we'll be figuring out how systemd could
move forward with newer versions, but it's wrapped up with the broader
discussion.
logind under different init systems, is a hack job and, is not a real implantation and, should not be used, logind should only be used on systemd systems this is bad that people are trying to fork logind this way and we're soon going to have 4 DE's that use it and or even require logind KDE, Gnome, MATE, E18, all 4 use logind atm and E19 is going to be Wayland based so thats also going to require systemd down the road as systemd and wayland go's hand and hand, so most all of the main linux desktop environments will have systemd integration andor require it
i think theincompatibilities down the road on Linux will be not using systemd also BSD is working on there own init system like systemd
a huge thing to think about we can openly send patches to the systemd maintainers as over 500 developers have been doing so far
Gentoo also is now using systemd as a sysvinit and, RC replacement for Linux systems
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd
if Debian end up using Upstart willCanonical force alicense for Upstart?? Just like they're doing to Linux Mint and other Linux's based off from Ubuntu
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20131209#qa
to use Upstart in Ubuntu any ways you have to pullin systemd packages shim-systemd libsystemd-daemon systemd-services Etc i think Ubuntu 13.10 used even more IIRC so will Debian have to do the same? whats the point of not using systemd if you have to pull in the packages for it any ways??
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