On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 09:09:52PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Ian Jackson > > I think you have misunderstood. Or perhaps I hae misunderstood you. > > The "work" that I'm saying needs to be done anyway is the work to > > disentange the parts of systemd which are required by (say) GNOME from > > the parts which are only relevant for systemd as init. > > This is work that would have to be done by the systemd maintainers in > > Debian. > I find it quite clear that this should be done and maintained by the > people who want to run such an configuration. I am not running any > non-systemd desktop systems and would be in a very poor positition to be > able to do this work. I also have no interest in it, which I think > should be pretty clear given my previous mails on the subject. > We've also said quite clearly that we'd gladly accept a co-maintainer > who wants to maintain this configuration, but nobody has shown up yet. I'm glad to hear that this is the case - though as for saying it "quite clearly", I believe this is the first time I've heard it said. If I volunteer to maintain this config, does that remove the concern about splitting the systemd binary package? (Modulo the issue expressed in your latest mail, that you don't want this to hold back inclusion of newer upstream revisions of systemd in Debian, which I agree needs to be respected.) > (Martin Pitt has worked a bit with us on getting the patches from Ubuntu > integrated, but AIUI, he's not been able to offer a long-term commitment > to maintaining the patches, and I think it's a very bad idea to merge a > patchset that nobody in the team wants to maintain long-term.) Though the differences in the choice of packaging VCS make it awkward to do a per-patch comparison between the Debian and Ubuntu packages, from what I see there is only one outstanding Ubuntu patch required to make logind v204 runnable without PID1 in Debian. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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