Bug#727708: Value of reading other's position statements [was: systemd vs. whatever]

[Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>]

Miroslaw Baran writes ("Bug#727708: Value of reading other's position statements [was: systemd vs. whatever]"):
> You wrote:
> > One non-feature of upstart which I happen to care strongly about is its
> > use of ptrace(2) to figure out what a job is doing. This destroys any
> > attempt to just use "strace foo" as the job, if one really needs to
> > figure out what a piece of software is doing wrong. Thanks but no
> > thanks.
> 
> Let me allow to quote the upstart's position statement:

I have to say that I think that if we were to suggest that packages
should supply upstart configs, this should be done by having the
packages use the SIGSTOP protocol, not by having init ptrace them.

Using ptrace like this is a trick one would use if one didn't have the
source code.

Ian.