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Bug#727708: upstart user jobs



On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 05:35:49PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Bug#727708: upstart user jobs"):
> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:31:57PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > I have some questions about these.  Forgive me if I could just have
> > > looked up the answers:

> > > Are they enabled by default in jessie/sid ?
> > > (If the answer is "no" then feel free not to answer the rest...)

> > "No" :)

> > Using upstart user jobs in Debian would imply a whole added level of
> > transition above and beyond adoption of upstart as init, and would require
> > coordination with maintainers of e.g. desktop environment packages and
> > display manager packages.  I think it would be a logical next step for
> > Debian to consider, if it adopted upstart as a default; but so long as
> > upstart is not the default in Debian I don't think it would be a good idea
> > to try to support this in Debian.

> I'm not sure I see the connection.  AIUI user jobs are a way to do
> roughly what cron's @reboot facility does, only better.

The topic of upstart user jobs has evolved since upstart 1.6.  As they're
used in Ubuntu 13.04 and later, the entire desktop session is run as a set
of upstart jobs, giving service supervision and better cleanup handling on
logout.  That is not something that we should try to enable in the upstart
package in Debian without careful coordination with other maintainers.

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Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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