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Bug#727708: systemd jessie -> jessie+1 upgrade problems

Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> writes:

> [1] Personally, I am sceptical whether it is a good idea to switch to a
>     different init system for jessie. But I am not on a desperate rant 
>     against systemd, and if something I bring up can be addressed that
>     is positive for me.

Just to give fair warning: right now, based on what I know today, there is
basically zero chance that I personally will vote retaining sysvinit for
jessie above further discussion.  So if you want to convince at least this
one member of the technical committee that this is a viable option, you
have quite a bit of work to do.

Right now, it appears to me that the feature set is wholly inadequate,
further substantial development is highly unlikely, the configuration
syntax is familiar but awful, and we are already seeing software in the
archive that requires capabilities that it's just not able to support.

To support continuing to use sysvinit, I think I would need to see a
credible plan for significant upstream development and support of the
software, including, at a minimum, how the features that are required by
our desktop environments would be handled, how device management and
dependencies will be managed given the event-driven kernel, and how proper
daemon management at least at the level common to upstart, systemd, and
OpenRC will be added.

Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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