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Bug#688772: Please do not unblock gnome-meta just yet



(Discussion redirected to the TC bug report.)

Rene Engelhard writes ("Re: Please do not unblock gnome-meta just yet"):
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 03:51:17PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > The Release Team should be aware that our request to unblock the
> > update to meta-gnome implementing the TC decision does not extend to
> > this latter change to meta-gnome.
> 
> I believe that exceeds your powers. Your decision was implemented
> correct.

I'm not in what way you think I'm exceeding my powers.  I'm pointing
out to the Release Team that the TC resolution does not request that
the Release Team unblock this particular update.

It is of course for the Release Team to make an unblock decision but I
doubt they will make an unblock now; if I were them I would wait to
see whether the TC makes a further resolution.

> Ans n-m - as people might like or not like, I am one who deson't (as a n-m
> user) - is part of GNOME depending on it for the *full* *gnome* IMHO is ok.

As you must be aware, this does not address the arguments made in the
rationale for the TC decision.  There is no logical connection between
n-m becoming part of GNOME core (as defined upstream) as opposed to
just part of GNOME as a whole, and strengthening the gnome
metapackage's Recommends to a Depends.

> > I am going to try to get the TC to pass another resolution
> > specifically overruling this further decision by the gnome-core
> > maintainers.
> 
> I agree with Josselin here completely. Stop the crusade.

Describing a unanimous decision of the Technical Committee as a
crusade is rude, and IMO shows a lack of contact with reality.

Having lost the argument in the TC, the right approach is not to
cause more useless work by deliberately undermining the TC's
decision, and then to hurl insults when we take exception.

You should either allow the TC decision to stand, and implement it
honestly (or allow someone else to do so), or attempt to overrule it
using a General Resolution.

Ian.


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