Bug#681834: Call for votes on network-manager, gnome

[Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>]

Jeremy Bicha writes ("Bug#681834: Call for votes on network-manager, gnome"):
> I see two things missing from this resolution:
>
> 1. GNOME has a stronger dependency on NM than they did when Squeeze
> was released. GNOME Shell now has a hard dependency on NM.

Do you mean
  http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome-shell
?  Because that doesn't have any dependency on network-manager.

So on a Debian wheezy system it is possible to install gnome-shell
without network-manager.  (There is a dependency on
gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 but that's just introspection data and
doesn't pull-in n-m itself, just some libraries.)

> > The user has to take separate, explicit (and somewhat unusual for the
> > average user) action to disable network-manager after it has been
> > installed.
> 
> 2. Yes, but it is also unusual for the average user to need to disable
> NM. For the average user, the consequences of not having NM are quite
> a bit worse than the benefits of being able to set up networking by
> hand. It's definitely possible to disable NM and the procedure to do
> this could easily be release-noted.

Nothing in our proposal makes anything more difficult for the average
user (by which I assume you mean someone who takes no special action).
The average user's system will honour the Recommends and install
network-manager.

Ian.