On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 05:54:03PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > To be honest I don't expect to be able to get a 4:1 majority in the TC > in favour of publicly denouncing Josselin. (Since the resolution as a > whole overrules a maintainer, that would be necessary.) But I wanted > to put my feelings, which IMO are legitimate, on the record. It is not what I consider appropriate for a member of the technical committee. I think gnome-core and gnome are sufficiently distinct meta packages (one providing the basic environment most call gnome and the other one providing many applications for common tasks which many people might not find useful at all). So the gnome maintainers are within their authority to decide that a full gnome experience should have network-manager, within Sam's reasoning that it provides a better experience to the users. One can read the last part of point 3 as a statement of facts and the part before that (only gnome-session is installable without network-manager) is solved with the aforementioned change. There's so much in the dependencies of gnome that people could be upset (e.g. avahi-daemon). They can simply install the basic DE now by installing gnome-core. Just because the word 'crusade' might have been meant to poke you, you should not accept the bait as happily as you did. Be professional. Thank you. Kind regards Philipp Kern
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