Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 13:48:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes ("Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to
CELT codec library removal"):
> > The test was done with a patched "348"-1.1 mumble-server and a patched
> > "348"-1.1 mumble client with bundled celt 0.7.1 only. (i.e. the patches
> > I had already sent.) The other OSes were running in a VM on the same
> > box, with the mic input going to the VM, and the mic muted in Mumble on
> > the host. The "Interop" checkbox indicates I heard audio out from the
> > host when talking through the VM. i.e. I tried to "do a real test".
> Right, so the "interop" column tells us whether the proposed mumble
> with included 0.7.1 celt will work with these other clients. And it
> largely does.
Right, and the two exceptions should soon be fixed.
> Thanks for doing the legwork. It sounded like something of a trial in
> parts. I hope you had fun!
Some of it was. It's been a /looong/ time since I've had a look at other
distros other than Debian, and I've never had a look at this many of them.
I'll give you some highlights:
- Many distros that were Debian-based allowed for updating the package
list and installing packages while still running the LiveCD. Trying to
do this on some Ubuntu-based distros seemed to cause them to crash,
which made a full install still necessary in those cases.
- Distros that require 3D for the GUI are a pain. (Ubuntu, Ultimate)
- I really don't like the Unity GUI in Ubuntu.
- A few distros use an installer/updater program that is horrible to use.
(IIRC Fuduntu, SolusOS). A couple also did ugly things like use only
"rpm" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list (PCLinuxOS).
- Arch Linux was very interesting: the install is done manually.
The first set of instructions I found were missing how to finish the
install of Grub2 leading to install failures, but the "Beginners Guide"
has them complete. Package installs on Arch are super-fast.
- Pear Linux is humorous: everything looks like Mac OS X. The Pear has a
bite out of it just like the Apple logo, the bottom taskbar that expands,
the upper doc has the menu for the currently open program.
- Vector Linux was fun to use and has what looked like an apt-based
installer even though it's based on Slackware. [I started on Slackware.]
- openSUSE and Fedora 17 were also quite nice and I found them easy to use,
at least on the surface.
- Gentoo is just as insane (if not more so) as it was when I last used
it for a time in 2003. The instructions has one re-compile the world
when updating the USE flags; the instructions for installing KDE has you
update the USE flags. emerge also gets into dependency hell, leading to
adding several swtiches: 'emerge --newuse --update --deep @world'
> > I have to rush out but if you have other questions I'll be back in about
> > 3 hours.
> I'm going away for a week starting tomorrow.
Wherever you're going, I hope you have an enjoyable time.