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Re: Bug#573745: Please decide on Python interpreter packages maintainership

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 09:32:33AM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org> wrote:
>> > I wonder if the core issue at hand here is simply that the python VCSs
>> > are on a resource writable by only one person (meaning no one else can
>> > contribute)?  See:
>> > https://code.launchpad.net/~doko/python/pkg2.7-debian
>> > https://code.launchpad.net/~doko/python/pkg3.2-debian
>> It's not (or not only), at least not for me, but it states quite
>> clearly the level of collaboration he expects from other fellow DDs -
>> none.
> It is absurd to claim that a documented, public, DVCS branch for the
> packaging is a statement that the maintainer doesn't expect collaboration
> from other DDs.

so why it's not a repository where all DDs has access, like ones on alioth.

> There has been no clearer indication to me in this bug's
> history that your pursuit of this issue is not based on concerns for the
> technical maintenance of Python, but is instead the result of some personal
> dislike that you have for Matthias.

false, but fell free to think so - go re-read the whole bug, there
*are* tech reasons (last one? python2.6 removal discussed with only
release-team and without any consultantion with debian-python) and
there are also behavioral reasons. If you prefer to skip the former
and look only at the latter (from me), it's your decision.

> Regardless of any other outcome of a vote on this issue, you can be assured
> that I think you would be an unfit maintainer for the Python packages, and I
> will not vote in favor of any option that puts you in a position of
> authority over Python in Debian.

you wouldn't have voted like this anyway, or for any other options
that reduce the relevance of Matthias in Python maintainance. you
probably already said that, now you're just reaffirming it.

> When this bug report was first filed, I
> had no particular reason to think you were unreasonable, despite your having
> signed on to a petition which I believed was ill-considered and misinformed.
> Your various comments since then have changed my mind; you never miss an
> opportunity to insult or attack Matthias, and generally make the
> debian-python mailing list a hostile environment not only for Matthias, but
> also for anyone else who works on Ubuntu or is employed by Canonical.  Some
> of us have thicker skins than others and are more able to tolerate this
> behavior, but it is nevertheless poisonous and it's entirely inappropriate
> for someone seeking to hold a leadership role within Debian - not because
> Ubuntu and Canonical are special, but precisely because they *aren't* and
> you persist in singling them out for ridicule.

the Canonical employee defending the Canonical employees. You're
wearing too many hats at the same time. but of course, how cares.

> You are in no position to say that Matthias does not want collaboration from
> his fellow DDs when it's you who continues to make it very clear that you
> want him out.

yeah, please have a look at the gcc-4.7 as default switch.

As always, you've been very passionate to rebut all my emails (of any
kind), but very less in trying to verify if the technical reasons
behind this bug are true and if intervention is needed and do
something about it. More than 2 years have passed, nothing has

Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi

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