OoO En cette matinée pluvieuse du samedi 22 mai 2010, vers 10:53, Andreas Barth <aba@not.so.argh.org> disait : >> As already pointed out by Joss in another email, is Matthias being >> granted with a veto vote? Can he indefinitely veto people willing to >> join such team even if others are OK with them? If that's the case, we >> believe this simply won't work and would kill democracy. > For the initial setup, I'd like to have only people in the team that > are ok by Matthias and are ok by the people who appealed to the > tech ctte. If that doesn't work out, we'll have to just decide anyways > of course. How will this team communicate? Did you consider the fact that Matthias is still currently silent on debian-python@ldo, even when important discussions are run? I don't see any indication that Matthias will become friendly and communicative when the team will be up and running. Most of my interactions ended with a wall of silence [1]. Most interactions are painful [2]. I don't really know how good is Matthias at maintaining packages on the technical side (but I suspect he is very good) but on the social side, he is unable to interact nicely with his users and fellow developers. Does anything indicate that there will be a change here? Will the social side be delegated to the rest of the team? My point is that it is unfair to rule out Josselin which is responsive and communicative in favor of Matthias without having any indication that Matthias' communication skills will improve (which would benefit the other packages that he maintains in the same mood). [1] Some examples: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=475440 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486148 [2] Another example: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=498857 (BTW, there is still a licensing problem in python2.6 binary being linked to OpenSSL and therefore cannot be linked on runtime with any GPL-ed module without OpenSSL exception, including readline; I did not open a bug report about this because of how difficult it is to deal with Matthias) -- I WILL NOT SELL MY KIDNEY ON eBAY I WILL NOT SELL MY KIDNEY ON eBAY I WILL NOT SELL MY KIDNEY ON eBAY -+- Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode BABF07
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