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Re: Bug#535645: Bug #535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools



On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:15:13PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de> writes:

> > I'm writing to you in the hope that you can facilitate resolving a
> > grievance I have with Joerg Jaspert in his roles as ftp-master and his
> > decision to remove ia32-libs-tools in the name of "The Project".

> [...]

> I'm not saying this means we should do nothing, just asking to help
> understand the overall context better:  Does the debate over this package
> become moot if Debian adopts full multiarch?  In other words, is this a
> stop-gap solution while waiting for multiarch, or do you see it as having
> an ongoing purpose even in a multiarch world?

Per <http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/07/msg00121.html>,
ia32-apt-get also imposes other obligations on a multiarch implementation,
which no consensus has been reached on:

  The upgrade path to multiarch is for the multiarch i386 deb to
  Conflicts/Replaces: <package that contains the same files>. Which
  means ia32-libs or ia32-libs-gtk for the old system or ia32-<package>
  for the ia32-apt-get one. And again with ia32-apt-get there is a huge
  advantage. As packages convert to multiarch they can be droped in
  ia32-apt-get on a case by case basis and replaced by the multiarch
  one. Meaning users don't have to wait for and update 200 packages in a
  single step.

So more than being a stop-gap, I think this tool is actively harmful to the
rollout of multiarch.

I would vote against any resolution to override the ftp masters' decision to
remove this package from the archive.

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