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Re: Processed: Forwarding to the technical committee



[ Re-forwarding this as the original bounced. It looks like the text
  at http://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte needs to be updated - I
  PGP-signed the first copy of this yet it was still rejected. ]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 12:49:33PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>Steve, thanks for bringing this matter to our attention.  I've looked
>at the bug log and a summary seems to be:
>
> * cdrtools's Makefiles as distributed by upstream (Joerg Schilling)
>   do not have a GPL-compatible licence, although the rest of the
>   code generally claims to be GPL'd
> * there is some argument by Joerg Schilling that this is somehow not
>   incompatible with the rest of the code being GPL'd, perhaps under
>   some peculiarities of German law
> * there are some other strangenesses of cdrtools's licensing

Yes, that agrees with my own understanding of the issues.

>Although the maintainer of cdrtools is Joerg Jaspert, Steve McIntyre
>and Eduard Bloch are listed in `Uploaders', and Steve made the last
>three maintainer uploads.
>
>So I think Steve means to pass this hot potato, which he thinks is his
>decision, to the TC.  Note that Eduard has already said he doesn't
>want to be involved any more, and Joerg Jaspert has not participated
>in the extensive discussion.  Steve, am I right ?

Correct.

>Joerg, do you object to the TC making this decision ?
>
>On the merits, the correct course seems clear.  cdrtools should be
>removed due for licensing problems at least until GPL-compatible
>Makefiles can be provided.

I believe that Eduard has already come up with a GPL-compatible build
system to use with cdrtools, but he is nervous of the possible
consequences of applying such a patch. Joerg Schilling has apparently
been getting threatening in email discussion over the last few days;
there is a long German thread on this in the alioth pkg-cdrtools-devel
mailing list.

In the face of such an aggressive upstream author with strong and
controversial opinions about the GPL, forking may be a difficult
option. Complete removal from Debian might be a better option, but I'd
like some other opinions on this before we go to such lengths.

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