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Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch



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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:53:18 +0100
Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:28:07PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > That patch has been dropped starting with the release of 2.6.15-1
> > > Debian kernel packages, according to changelog.
> > 
> > Yes. It is also noted as being dropped in 2.6.14-6.
> > 
> > The first of my collected[1] Bugreports[2] indicated problems with
> > 2.6.14-5, however, so I suspect either both changelog entries are
> > wrong or there's more to it than the modular-ide patch.
> 
> If the patch was droped in 2.6.14-6, and you had problems with
> 2.6.14-5, then this is perfectly normal, no ? Or am i missing
> something ? 

If modular-ide is the sole source of trouble here, then what worked in
2.6.14-4 and earlier?

The bugreports seem to indicate that things broke in 2.6.14-5 that
worked in 2.6.14-4. And it seems nothing related else than linux-2.6
changed then - not yaird and not kernel-package.

It sounds like modular-ide is evil, but if using linux-2.6 changelog
entries as evidense of that evil being the (whole) cause of this
trouble, it seems natural to expect those entries to make sense.

My worry is that perhaps things actually started _breaking_ with the
drop of modular-ide. I am not claiming that modular-ide is good, but
perhaps it kept together other broken stuff popping up when modular-ide
was dropped?

The reason I dare persist with these speculations is that I believe we
_do_ have alternatives to weakening the yaird logic until certain that
is not the case.

(deliberately not repeating those here to avoid rebooting the
discussion - please say so if interested in me clarifying)


Of course if noone but me see a point here (no need to comment unless
you _do_ see a point!) then I rest my case.

 - Jonas

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