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Re: Bug#154950: Gnome 2 transition



On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 04:38, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 10:37:13AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > Previously Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > That is not comparable, X4.2 is still not in unstable because Branden
> > > did work on 4.1 until months after 4.2 was released. This is one of the
> > > things that gives us a reputation of releasing with obsolet versions of
> > > stuff, and a think we have no reason to be prud of.
> > 
> > Actually I think it is a thing we do have to be proud of. Branden
> > spend a shitload of time making sure we had a good working X in woody
> > that works on all architectures, and he succeeded. We can probably
> > safely say we have the only X that runs properly on eleven
> > architectures.
> Well, but you screw all users with newer cards that need 4.2 to run.
 
Two points.

1) Hint:  Don't buy unsupported bleeding edge hardware.  Check first. 
It's not hard.  X4.1 supports lots of cards that work perfectly well. 
If you want bleeding edge, go with Nvidia and deal with their
close-sourceness.  Its a model I see that works with the goals you
obviously have. (bleeding edge hardware working on a distribution that
doesn't just build->ship everything just after it comes out.)

2) People don't have infinite time.  Branden has a large range of
responsibilities that I think would make some others greatful of the
time he spends volunteering his valuable time to the project.  I know my
time isn't free.  Many of us could most likely find at least a couple
side-contract-jobs if we wanted to and just make money constantly.  Some
of us are here for Free software.  Balancing work, family, and the
'habit' is hard.  The fact Branden has found a great balance that
doesn't make his wife walk out, lose his job, or cause him to go
completely insane (due to lack of sleep or other things) is a good
thing, and we really don't need to be fucking with that.  I've been
toying with my balance these days and can attest to the lack-of-sleep
factor.

In any case, can we stop trying to drive people out of the project and
get back to actual work?  Please?

-- 
Scott Dier <dieman@ringworld.org> http://www.ringworld.org/



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