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Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 02:02:00AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
writes: > Branden> * "Release critical bugs are _very_ rare.";
and > Branden> * Release critical bugs should be the domain of
the Release Manager, > Branden> Then we really don't need a
tight connection between the > Branden> "serious" severity and
release-criticality at all.
Sorry, but this doesn't follow. Treating
"serious" as a severity or a tag is largely immaterial, and the fundamental
point of the "serious" severity or tag is as an aid to release
management.
> Branden> The Release Manager can strip the
"release-critical" tag off > Branden> of any bug he
wants. This is how things have *always* > Branden> worked
in reality.
No, it's not. In reality, things have always just
been ignored, rather than being formally stripped of
"release-criticality".
> I find myself in strong and vehement
agrement with Branden on > this point.
Branden brought up a
number of interesting and good points (and, even better, simple) in the
discussion he's referencing, but it was at the end of a pretty long winded
and vicious argument about the referenced bug, and there was too much of an
"agree to anything just to get this over with" on my behalf. Which isn't to
say I don't agree with much of it, but I need some time to sit and look at
this calmly before I can have a considered opinion on it.
OTOH,
there is one part that I have had plenty of opportunity to think about: and
personally I don't believe debian-policy should have _any_ influence over
the severity of a bug. If there're already good reasons for increasing the
severity of a bug without policy, then that's good enough. If there aren't,
policy shouldn't be forcing them on people.
There're plenty of ways we
can improve Debian without raising the members of the policy list as being
better or more powerful than other developers.
Beyond _all_ other
things, this is the major problem with the serious severity and
release-critical bugs (and debian-policy@) at the moment.
And as much
as I'd like to be able to say it's better to have -policy be "better and
more powerful" than the release manager for general democratic and
consensus principles, I'm sorry, but it simply hasn't worked, and I'm yet
to see *anyone* even remotely interested in making it
work.
Cheers, aj
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