Re: Release-critical bugs, and #97671
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <ian@davenant.greenend.org.uk> writes:
Ian> In this case then there are several pieces of different information
Ian> which we might record in the BTS severity field:
Ian> (a) The package maintainer's idea of how urgent/important the
Ian> bug is
Ian> (c) Something specified by the policy manual
if severity criteria are objective, the differences could be
minimized here. I fail to see why we should not strive to have these
two be as close to identical as possible. We may not achieve perfect
matches in all cases, but objective criteria should take the guess
work out of assigning bug severities.
Ian> (b) The release manager's idea of whether the bug is releaseable
Since the bug submitter is not generally the RM, and the RM
decides on a case by case basis, and factors in the time left to
release, this is the hardest criteria to achieve, and indeed, we
should not even try.
The BTS records severities, determined in a deterministic,
objective fashion. There is a general understanding that the more
severe ``severity'' categories are more lilely to be classified as
un-releasable by the RM, by this is a loose guideline at best.
We MUST decouple RC-ness from the BTS severities, since the
former depends on case by case subjective judgment of a since person,
and is not time independent.
>> Absolutely unconditionally _no_. This leaves the definition of serious
>> a matter of judgement on behalf of the submitter which makes managing
>> the release an order of magnitude more difficult.
Ian> Well, the current wording sort of does that too:
Ian> serious
Ian> is a severe violation of Debian policy (that is, it violates a
Ian> "must" or "required" directive), or,
This part is clearly objective.
Ian> in the package maintainer's opinion, makes the package
Ian> unsuitable for release.
I am fairly agnostic about this part, but it seems somehow
fitting That a package maitnainer, their discretion, may indicate a
general unsuitability of the package for release (a hint to the
RM). Branden has also lobbied for the Justification: header in the
bug report, which can be used to distinguish beteeen the two flavours
of a serious bug.
Ian> But, I can see that you might want to avoid too much discretion being
Ian> exercised by bug submitters.
Discretion is not quote how I would describe bug severity
escalation, but yes, bug severities ought to be as objective as we
can make them.
manoj
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