Re: Building cloud images using Debian infrastructure
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:34:12PM +0000, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> It would be so very good to stop circling the two main issues that recur
> frequently: (1) building on casulana (debian-owned and operated
> infrastructure) and (2) use of FAI. The fact that we keep circling (and
> I get to be that mostly-outside-looking-in-guy in a do-ocracy world) on
> these two issues is, in my view, a problem.
>
> (Not picking on Noah, just happen to reply to his email :) ).
I think you're overestimating how much disagreement there is.
We've already agreed that Debian should be able to build its images on
casulana. Noah seems to feel it adds a barrier to getting the system in
place (empirically true, in my experience) and that it adds a risk of
making a Debian-specific locked-in workflow (which is what I'm pushing
back on to Bastian). It's clear that he'd prefer provider-specific build
platforms, but he said his piece at the sprint - he was just summarizing
that in this thread.
At this point, is anyone truly arguing against doing official builds on
Debian infrastructure if someone manages to put in the time and energy
to make it work in a way that people can easily reproduce
independently of Debian infrastructure? I don't think so.
Similarly, I think we're all agreed on using FAI, though I haven't
checked to see what's in Bastian's implementation.
Assuming I'm not missing something there, the main question is about how
to get the FAI builds set up and invoked, with a secondary question of
fixing the FAI builds on platforms where they don't yet work. Noah's
already building with FAI for AWS.
- Jimmy Kaplowitz
jimmy@debian.org
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