On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 10:02:34PM +0800, James Bromberger wrote: > <TL;DR> > Official AWS EC2 AMI images under-way; please test and give feedback: > search AMIs for "379101102735/debian-squeeze". Stable only. SSH as > "ec2-user". SSH keys only. UserData shell script support. Feedback wanted! > </TL;DR> Hear, hear! Testing/feedback very welcome! > I have been coordinating between Debian (as I am a DD - jeb@debian.org) > and Amazon Web Services (as I have recently started working there - > jameseb@amazon.com) to create what can become official Debian images on > AWS, with the blessing of our Debian leader (Stefano) Correct. To expand a bit more on this, as I've mentioned in [1] I've been approached by Amazon representatives interested in having official Debian AMIs in their "AWS marketplace". This is different than the usual "AMI soup" where you've to search for AMI matching, say, the "Debian" string and trust whoever prepared them. In the AWS marketplace they offer OS images that are supposedly prepared by the OS vendors and wanted to know if Debian is interested to be part of them. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/11/msg00000.html My general take on this is that, if we have users interested in running Debian on public clouds, we should support them. As mentioned in [2], I think it would be better for them to deploy their own cloud, but that's not something that everyone could do. So if they have to stick to a so called "public cloud", they are better off running Debian there than some less Free OS. [2]: http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120425 Amazon is just one of the public cloud out there, and on that front I think we should not discriminate one for another. We'll simply follow the traditional Debian model: we'll support as much public clouds out there as we have interested developers in doing the corresponding work. In the specific case of Amazon, James has done a lot of work. He has worked both on the technical side (preparing the images you've seen mentioned by him on this list), and on the political side (helping me in the conversations with the management at Amazon). The current status is something like this: - at the technical level, we need feedback! the images look good, but the more eyeballs the better. Please test them and let this list know of your findings: please post both positive and negative experiences, so that we know who has tested what :) - at the political level, before going live we'll need to accept the AWS terms of services, which essentially ask for some responsibility waiver (e.g. if we upload malware on purpose via the AWS, we'll be responsible for that!) and ask us to offer Debian via AWS at the same conditions we offer it on other distribution channels (which of course we wanted to do anyhow). James has volunteered to accept the AWS terms of services on behalf of Debian, and I'm happy to delegate to him that responsibility Once we're ready, I think we should also announce this via the usual Debian communication channels (i.e. -news), highlighting various things: - the creation of this discussion place - the availability of Debian on AWS - the fact that we do not want to special case any specific public cloud, and the invite for others to join this list and work on supporting others If the image testing goes well, it looks like we will be ready pretty soon, like in a week or so. If you've comments on this roadmap, please voice them! > Further background: I have created an AWS account on behalf of Debian, > and will grant access to any DD who wants access to create images and > help maintain the project. I plan to also give read only access to every > DD once we have sorted out authentication federation between the Debian > LDAP sever and AWS's Security Token Service (STS) facility (any > volunteers?). if you would like to actively jump in, please let me know. Hear, hear! James is de facto leading this because he has stepped in and done the work. If you want to join, you're more than welcome, just step in :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . zack@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »
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