属于团队维护的包，其包的遗弃、收养、转移，可以有团队内部的约定，这个应当不违反 Debian 现有规则。 基于团队内原有上传者曾经对软件包维护的贡献，继续保留其名字在上传者字段，不知道会有哪些问题？ 从目前现有的 Debian 规则来看，对团队维护这块，没有特别细化的限制条款，应该是给团队一定的自主权。团队内部达成一致就行。 就这个具体实例，估计中文团队之前是没有碰到过这类问题，没有讨论过，像这种情况，遵循 Debian 单个软件包的维护惯例，去掉上传者名字，这是没有问题的，我刚才也在 git 里面去掉了。 如果一个团队内部所有的其它人都不愿意接手维护这个软件包，我觉得应该是先取消这个软件包的团队维护，再遗弃这个软件包到 wnpp。 目前 Debian 里面，中文软件包本来就比较少，后续就不要轻易删除一个包了，中文团队有责任和义务维护好现有软件包，并引入更有价值的中文相关软件包。 有很多软件包，目前上游已经不活跃，缺少维护，这类软件包在 Debian 里面继续维护，确实会有很多困难。 作为这个软件包新的上游，相信接下来会遇到很多挑战，我会尽力而为，有问题大家多交流，多帮助。 在 2020/5/20 下午12:25, Mo Zhou 写道: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:03:00AM +0800, atzlinux 肖盛文 wrote: >> 已经在 git 提交。fortune-zh 这个软件包是中文团队维护的软件包，像 Uploaders >> 字段这类细节规则，我们团队内部是可以讨论确定。 > Debian has its own conventions in the Maintainers/Uploaders fields and > there is no reason for Chinese dev team to override them. > >> 曾经的上传维护者，继续留在 Uploaders 字段，也可以，当然去掉也行。 > Don't make such a simple fact equivocal. > > On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 05:24:02 GMT the original maintainer had changed the bug > into an Orphan bug from an RFA bug: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=910181 > > According to Debian policy section 3.3 > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#the-maintainer-of-a-package > "An orphaned package is one with no current maintainer. Orphaned > packages should have their Maintainer control field set to Debian QA > Group <packages@qa.debian.org>" > But by convention we don't waste resources uploading the package again > merely dropping the maintainer from the control file. > > Plus, "Orphan" means "the maintainer can no longer maintain the package" > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#orphaning-a-package > > Further more, the original maintainer stated that they had no interest in > maintaining this package anymore, and was going to drop this package in #910181 > > Various strong evidence indicates that the original maintainer should be > removed when someone else takes it over. > > The "继续留在 Uploaders 字段，也可以，当然去掉也行" statement is > dismissing the facts and making simple things equivocal. > >> 一个属于团队维护的软件包，原 Uploaders >> 不想继续维护了，优先在团队内部找人接手吧， > Debian has its own standard process for maintainers to drop packages: > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#orphaning-a-package > The original maintainer had no reason to override the community convention. > > Imposing one's opinion on the team development workflow is impractical. > >> 如果有人愿意接手，就不一定要给 >> wnpp 发 ITO，直接内部转移即可。 我说这句话的意思，只是提到提到团队内部维护的软件包，先优先内部转移比较好。 我并没有明确到具体实例说，fortune-zh 这个软件包的遗弃，没有经过当时的团队内部沟通。 2018 年的中文邮件列表里面，我没有印象有收到过这个软件包遗弃的事情。或者当时还有其它沟通途径交流这个事情。 但是从 #910181 的文字描述来看，没有提及中文团队内部无人接手的情况。 > > You dismissed the fact again. The orignal maintainer had sent the bug > #910181 on 3 Oct 2018. And clearly no one had intented to take that > over. > This physical world is driven by facts instead of subjective thoughts. > > > On the other hand, the original maintainer clearly stated the following > in #910181 : > > "Note, this is a native package. Adopting this package means > that you are going to be the new upstream." > > Just curious, are you prepared to become the new upstream, even if this > package cannot be more simpler? > -- 肖盛文 Faris Xiao 微信：atzlinux ＱＱ：909868357 铜豌豆 Linux 基于 Debian 的 Linux 中文桌面操作系统：https://www.atzlinux.com
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