Hi, Pete Batard <pete@akeo.ie> (2023-03-11): > The regression, in my opinion, is that the standard release of bullseye > made sure that all the packages that may be required for a successful > installation would be available for users who did not create their media > using 'dd', whereas bookworm doesn't. The standard release of Bullseye doesn't include all the packages that may be required for a successful installation! That's exactly why we've had this vote on non-free-firmware and all those changes! > Whereas one could use file system transposition with bullseyes to create a > working installation media for a UEFI system, the same is not true for > bookworm, as we now have .deb packages that are symbolically linked and that > will not be found unless the user takes care of manually duplicating those, > or copies the ISO through a utility that does. As far as I can tell, there are no functional changes here. > Again, I will point out that the goal is for users of any OS to be able to > bypass the need to use any external utility (and I'll remind everyone that > Windows does not come with a native 'dd' equivalent for instance) and just > use the native tools that come with the OS to create a Debian installation > UEFI bootable media . This appears to be *your* goal. > With bullseye, and to continue with the example of Windows, this was > possible by simply formatting a USB drive to FAT32 (which can be easily > achieved by right clicking on the drive or through the native disk utility) > then mounting the ISO in File Explorer (again right click, for any version > of Windows starting with Windows 8 included) and copying the files to the > USB drive. You've been repeating that a lot. But those Bullseye images are nowhere more usable! > With bookworm, doing the above no longer guarantees that the media will > result in an installable Debian, because if the user happens to require a > firmware, the relevant .deb package will be missing from /firmware due to > the use of symbolic links. That. is. not. a. change. from. Bullseye. Example: My laptop requires iwlwifi firmware. Please explain to me how it gets installed during the Bullseye installation process. > I hope that clarifies it. Not at all. Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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